Para Ordnance Serial Number Year Smith
I was considering a 4' PARA with the LDA trigger but now I'm considering something different because.1) they do not make a short.40 so my Idea of interchangeability with my P16 mags would not work.2) the quality/reliability reports I have been reading about and poor customer service.I have had good experiences of firearms companies standing by their products including replacement parts from PARA 7-8 years ago but things seem to have changed.I think I'm sticking with Glock too but I'll wait until the new G4 models come out to see what options they offer. A 27 will companion well with my 22.' I would think, in the big picture, they wouldn't give a rats ass about this thread. 'Maybe your description might be used to show how their CSR's are perceived by customers.
- Smith & Wesson. Victory Model. 10/22 (Rifles). Mark II (Pistols). Number 1 (Rifle). Arlington Ordnance. Weston, CT; importer - reimports surplus U.S. Military weapons shipped overseas. (M1 Garands, M1 Carbines, etc.) Armaf S.
- Apr 23, 2015 Does anyone know what serial number Para starts with when they make a new model?? I purchased an Expert full size last spring and I thought it weird that I saw the gun in my local shop before it was on their website. I recently sold it to a friend and when we were doing the paperwork I noticed that the serial number was 001004NW.
The model should be stamped right on the slide. Otherwise, the models seem to be Magazine capacity / caliber P-16/40 is 16 rounds.40 cal. P-14/45 14 rounds of.45 cal etc. So all you need to do is count capacity and note the caliber (unless it's a fullsize frame with 'post ban' 10 round limeted mags, then you need to sort out what the 'preban' capacity is).
JGPrince: The.38 Double Action 3rd Model was manufactured between 1884 & 1895 in the serial number range 119001 to 322700. For an exact shipping date & address you would need to get a factory letter from Roy Jinks at S&W (cost $50.00).The C prefix serial number was introduced in 1948 at C1, C223998 was used in 1951, so your gun falls somewhere in the middle. Per the standard Catalog of S&W you don't have model of 1905 fifth change, you have a.38 Military & Police (postwar) or Pre-Model 10, but that's just nit-picking. Need some help identifying a S&W hand ejector revolver. Barrel marked '38 S&W SPECIAL CTG' 4 inch barrel with a 4 screw side plate. It has a mushroom shaped ejector.
Serial number on bottom of the rounded handle is 304XXX but on the bottom of the barrel it is prefixed with either a small 'R' or a small but not fully stamped 'B' then 304XXX. Any ideas of the year and approximate value would be great. I'll try to attach two pics to show the condition.Thanks,JHILDELast edited by JHILDE; April 8, 2009 at 07:28 AM. JHILDE: You have a S&W.38 Military & Police Model of 1905 4th change. Manufactured between 1915 & 1942 in the serial number range 2000, heat treated cylinders were introduced at serial number 316648. As yours is earlier than that it is probably safest if only shot with standard pressure loads.
The grips are correct for the age of the gun, checkered walnut with gold monogram inserts and an un-checkered diamond around the grip screws. Square butts were available, but the round butt (like yours) was more common. The Standard Catalog of S&W notes that guns with serial numbers in the 500000 range shipped in 1927, so yours dates from somewhere between 1915 & 1927. Most of the bluing is missing, so condition would be fair to good.
Per the SCSW this meant a value of $135 to $200 in 2006.Edit: A post by XavierBreath, moderator at the notes that the change to heated treated cylinders occurred in September 1919. So if he is correct then 1915-1919 is the age range. Quote:Square butts were available, but the round butt (like yours) was more common.Radagast,I read on some internet sites including these blessed forums that the sq butt vs rd butt is a typo in the SCSW. I of course have a 1905 4th change, 253XXX, with the original grips and a nickel finish. At first I thought I got a great deal since I know nickel is more rare, and the sq butt was said to be more rare in SCSW. I have the SCSW so don't bother looking up my SNIn my independent research and from what I've seen, the rd butts seem to be more scarce making it in fact vice versa.
I also discussed it with a guy from S&W and he said that most revolvers back then were sq butt. What have you seen? Did you bother investigating the typos that are all through the SCSW? Just curious as to your experience and opinions. Quote:I read on some internet sites including these blessed forums that the sq butt vs rd butt is a typo in the SCSW.+1; Jim Supica, one of the SCSW co-authors, has acknowledged that he got this backwards.I don't have my books handy, but IIRC the square-butt frame debuted approximately midway through the model run of the.38 M&P Model of 1902, 1st Change, although it was not catalogued. Some collectors consider the very early SB guns to be a separate transitional model, a 'pre-Model of 1905' so to speak, rather than a Model of 1902 per se.IIRC the SB frame quickly overtook the original RB frame in sales once the Model of 1905 officially debuted.
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If the RB frame ever outsold the SB frame, it only happened early in the production run of the Model of 1905. Whether it happened at all, and if so, for how long is a matter of some debate. Winchester-73, carguychris, thanks for the correction there. I'm in Australia, so although I have shot or handled more models than most people I know ( I am a part time employee of a gun dealer, formerly I've qualified for the Australian practical pistol team & I lost track at the number of different models of pistol I've shot sometime after number 67), I don't have access to the full range of experience that you guys do.
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Answering questions here and at The High Road, I stick to what the SCSW says and generally point out that I'm referencing it.Off the top of my head I've actually shot the following guns:S&W 60, 64, 640, 66, 63, 28, 627, 625, 629, 29, 15, 686, 617, 59, 2206, 422, 22a, 586Webley MKIII, MKIV, Enfield No.2.Walther PP, PPK, P1, P99, P22Colt SAA, Woodsman, 1911 Gold Cup, 1991A1 9mmUberti SAA, Uberti 1851 cartridge conversionGlock 17, 19, 21, 22, 23, 27, 27L, 31, 34, 35Mauser BroomhandleRuger SP101, Single Six, MKII, 22-45Otis A. Quote:Mod 10 4'.38 spl Ser # 383xxx.
And Mod 12.38 spl Airweight Ser # 56xxxIf the Model 10 is actually stamped MOD. 10 inside the yoke cut, that serial number should have a 'C' or 'D' prefix. If it's not model-numbered, no prefix =.38 Military & Police Model of 1905, 4th Change produced in the 1930s; 'V' or 'SV' prefix, it's a Victory Model produced during WWII circa late 1943.The number from the Model 12 is probably an assembly number unless it has a 'D' prefix. K frame serial numbers were a 'C' prefix followed by 6 digits when.38 M&P Airweight production began. G729:Your model 64 should date to July 1987.
Serial prefixs AVB & AWW are both recorded in the Standard Catalog of S&W for that month, yours fall in between.Kiwilarry:The model 29 serial number you quote is incorrect, it should have an S or an N prefix. If you are quoting a number from inside the crane then it is probably an assembly number used to track fitted parts as they moved through the factory.The serial number is always on the bottom of the grip frame, you may have to remove the grips to see it.The Model 12 should have a D or C prefix, ditto the model 10. Check the bottom of the grips and post the numbers you find on each gun and I'll be able to answer your queries. This email link is to reach site administrators for assistance, if you cannot access TFL via other means. If you are a TFL member and can access TFL, please do not use this link; instead, use the forums (like Questions, Suggestions, and Tech Support) or PM an appropriate mod or admin.If you are experiencing difficulties posting in the Buy/Sell/Trade subforums of TFL, please read the 'sticky' announcement threads at the top of the applicable subforum. If you still feel you are qualified to post in those subforums, please contact 'Shane Tuttle' (the mod for that portion of TFL) via Private Message for assistance.This email contact address is not an 'Ask the Firearms Expert' service.
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